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"Man, I told you he was good."
This whole post is majorly SPOILERIFIC in a Doctor Who finale, Doomsday kind of way.
Typed as I watched.
...yes, they're Daleks. So what?
Not the best acting, Jackie.
Cybermen will remove sexuality! No way Jose!
Oh, don't go and die, purple shirt and tie guy. You're into purple! Thus, I like you. ...yeeouch.
Oh, Rose clinging to Mickey! Heh.
Music's good. Probably a bit over the top, but good.
I like Mickey, he's a nice middle ground between old!Mickey and Ricky.
Oh, Doctor. To know what's going through his mind as he sees the Daleks.
Ha! Of course the Daleks would not unite with you, Cyberfilth.
"You are better at dying"? Ha! The Daleks have snark.
Aha! Of course they're scared! The oncoming storm!
So, y'all think they'll get upgraded? TW-gal and Jackie?
Hope! That's Jacky-boy, intit? YAY! Now go find Mickey! Jake/Mickey OTP! Ahem.
Yay for Jackie running, too. Anybody would be running.
Oh Jake's accent! (You'd missed me squeeing at his accent, hadn't you. Admit it.)
Oh, Pete... Pete! What's up. You can't - he's needed!
Harriet! Heee! Love that mention of her.
Ha! I love him. "Off we go, then!" So him.
ROSE DON'T. ...so she remembers? She knows that Jack's alive. Why the fuck did they not go back for him. Serious-the-fuck-ly. No excuse. ...and she's on crack again!
SONIC SCREWDRIVER WOOHOO! Opening doors and putting up shelves.
Go Mickey! Come on, Mickey, come on! ...oh, brilliant, he stumbled.
Ha! Doctor/Mickey smooch!
...and the way Mickey's looking at the Doctor. Aw. He's like, "yes, that's the one."
Yay Pete and Jackie!
Love that he repeatedly stumbled and fell. Heroes never fall. But the Doctor does. Yay!
Thank you Jake. Because yes, lift, good idea. At least one of them has something resembling brains.
A prison, fuck, and also, good one. The fact that it's a prison, I mean.
"Man, I told you he was good." = OTP moment. (And can totally be read as slashy, too. Just sayin'.)
...how exactly did TW-gal manage to regain her individuality inside the Cybersuit? What? How did that happen? Did I miss something?
"Emergency temporal shift"? Did one escape? Is it the Black one?
If she's going into the void, they're so going to get her back at some point. It's Sirius behind the veil all over again. Oh? Oh. Pete. *cuddles* *hard* How did he pull that off? Seriously, that's so deus ex machina. Russell Russell Russell.
Oh, Ten. ...and now you need to move on. No, seriously. Maybe Jack can arrive? One can always hope.
I'm bored.
...is she in therapy? Who is she talking to?
WHERE IS JACKY-BOY. Did they break up on account of Rose?
"Burning up a sun just to say goodbye." That's lovely.
Bad Wolf Bay. Ha! And "Dalek?" was exactly my thought.
THE BABY? ...oh. Good. I was worried for a moment that she was back with Mickey. She can't be, since he's with Jake. Just sayin'.
It's good acting, Billie, but... I just can't care.
GOOD. I was hoping it'd power down before he could say it. OH DOCTOR. The Doctor crying is just wrong. In such a beautiful way.
And the music is really, seriously too much.
Ha! I like the WTF ending. EXCEPT FOR THE PART WHERE IT'S SERIOUSLY MISSING IN THE JACK DEPARTMENT.
And now for actual thoughts.
That was highly disappointing. First off, where is the breakdown? Second off, where is Jack? Third off, where are the tears I'm guessing Russell was hoping to get out of me? Fourth off, where's more on the Time War? Fifth off, where's the finale-worthy plot?
1) Seriously. They spent the whole season building this up? Where is the Doctor breaking down. Where is their arrogance getting them into trouble. Where is the big mistake he or she should seriously have made by now. It's like hubris building up into nothing, and that's bad. I've defended Russell against so many accusations characterisation-wise, because I thought it was all for a greater purpose.
2) Okay, so I was sort of resigned to not seeing Jack, but I couldn't help hoping, right? But this goes back to the same issue as before, me expecting them to be building up to something big. Because if I wanted to see Jack all that much - well, yes, okay, it was partly to squee and marvel and love. But also? Because if anybody could put the Doctor back in his place it would be Jack. It clicks so perfectly in my head, the way it could go down. But there was no need for Jack, since there was no need to put the Doctor back in his place.
3) Not a single tear shone in my eyes. I like that they didn't actually kill Rose, that she was just being super emo. And at the same time, I hate that they didn't actually kill Rose. I like that they didn't, because everybody knew they would. But a well-done, played-down death would've been so perfect, and would've surely made the Doctor break down, and yes it all comes back to that, we need a breakdown. Maybe they're just taking their time, and are planning for it later, but... god. This was so disappointing. The goodbye scene was brilliantly acted, and maybe it's because I cried every tear in my body last night over Grey's, I don't know, but this just seriously fell short. Because their arrogance and their on-crack-ness have left me on the outside of all their private jokes, on the outside of their relationship, and I could not care. (I miss Nine. The "Bad Wolf" moment? LOVE. It was like a little bit of Nine shining through Ten's smile.)
4) You give me Daleks, I can't help but hope for more info on the Time War. They've kept us in the dark for so long, and Ten's "and maybe one day I'll come to terms with it," or however he put it, only served to finally put in words what we already knew. That he's haunted by it, and that he's far from got over it, and the thought that a Time Lord, looking to live a whiiiile longer yet, would say "maybe" about getting over something, when he potentially has so much time to do it in? Well, yeah. It means the world. But we knew all that already, the acting was good enough. ...yes, we're back to me wanting the breakdown. Hmpf. Because the breakdown, had it happened, would've had to be related to his repressed feelings over the Time War.
5) Honestly. I can't defend Russell honestly without being aware of his flaws, and plot has never been his strong point. He also likes his epic endings, and the whole "whole family on this deserted beach in Norway, the Tylers reunited" thing? Very RTD. (For the record, though? I hate that Mickey's suddenly back to Rose's... guy friend thing. Liked them so much better a world apart.) My point! My point is that the plot SUCKED MAJOR ASS. I was not holding my breath in the slightest. How sad is that? Last week's cliffhanger had me on the edge of my seat, and this? Not so much. I kept waiting for the story to really start, really kick in, and suddenly it was already Cheap Resolution Time. I truly wish they made longer stories, could develop things more.Or had Steven Moffat write all their two-parters. Honestly, last year's ending two-parter was so much better, even though it used even worse of a deus ex machina than Pete was. At least the deus ex machina was so huge it almost mocked itself, with Rose as an actual goddess figure, momentarily.
I'm just... disappointed. Sorry. And sixth off, I think, is where is Nine?
6) I miss Nine. I love David Tennant, I always said he could pull off a brilliant Doctor, and he does, but he doesn't pull off a Doctor I can LOVE. Not really. I love him superficially. I don't love him like I should, and it fills me with sadness. Nine, I miss Nine so much, no matter how much I try to like Ten.
Can we get Torchwood now?
Typed as I watched.
...yes, they're Daleks. So what?
Not the best acting, Jackie.
Cybermen will remove sexuality! No way Jose!
Oh, don't go and die, purple shirt and tie guy. You're into purple! Thus, I like you. ...yeeouch.
Oh, Rose clinging to Mickey! Heh.
Music's good. Probably a bit over the top, but good.
I like Mickey, he's a nice middle ground between old!Mickey and Ricky.
Oh, Doctor. To know what's going through his mind as he sees the Daleks.
Ha! Of course the Daleks would not unite with you, Cyberfilth.
"You are better at dying"? Ha! The Daleks have snark.
Aha! Of course they're scared! The oncoming storm!
So, y'all think they'll get upgraded? TW-gal and Jackie?
Hope! That's Jacky-boy, intit? YAY! Now go find Mickey! Jake/Mickey OTP! Ahem.
Yay for Jackie running, too. Anybody would be running.
Oh Jake's accent! (You'd missed me squeeing at his accent, hadn't you. Admit it.)
Oh, Pete... Pete! What's up. You can't - he's needed!
Harriet! Heee! Love that mention of her.
Ha! I love him. "Off we go, then!" So him.
ROSE DON'T. ...so she remembers? She knows that Jack's alive. Why the fuck did they not go back for him. Serious-the-fuck-ly. No excuse. ...and she's on crack again!
SONIC SCREWDRIVER WOOHOO! Opening doors and putting up shelves.
Go Mickey! Come on, Mickey, come on! ...oh, brilliant, he stumbled.
Ha! Doctor/Mickey smooch!
...and the way Mickey's looking at the Doctor. Aw. He's like, "yes, that's the one."
Yay Pete and Jackie!
Love that he repeatedly stumbled and fell. Heroes never fall. But the Doctor does. Yay!
Thank you Jake. Because yes, lift, good idea. At least one of them has something resembling brains.
A prison, fuck, and also, good one. The fact that it's a prison, I mean.
"Man, I told you he was good." = OTP moment. (And can totally be read as slashy, too. Just sayin'.)
...how exactly did TW-gal manage to regain her individuality inside the Cybersuit? What? How did that happen? Did I miss something?
"Emergency temporal shift"? Did one escape? Is it the Black one?
If she's going into the void, they're so going to get her back at some point. It's Sirius behind the veil all over again. Oh? Oh. Pete. *cuddles* *hard* How did he pull that off? Seriously, that's so deus ex machina. Russell Russell Russell.
Oh, Ten. ...and now you need to move on. No, seriously. Maybe Jack can arrive? One can always hope.
I'm bored.
...is she in therapy? Who is she talking to?
WHERE IS JACKY-BOY. Did they break up on account of Rose?
"Burning up a sun just to say goodbye." That's lovely.
Bad Wolf Bay. Ha! And "Dalek?" was exactly my thought.
THE BABY? ...oh. Good. I was worried for a moment that she was back with Mickey. She can't be, since he's with Jake. Just sayin'.
It's good acting, Billie, but... I just can't care.
GOOD. I was hoping it'd power down before he could say it. OH DOCTOR. The Doctor crying is just wrong. In such a beautiful way.
And the music is really, seriously too much.
Ha! I like the WTF ending. EXCEPT FOR THE PART WHERE IT'S SERIOUSLY MISSING IN THE JACK DEPARTMENT.
And now for actual thoughts.
That was highly disappointing. First off, where is the breakdown? Second off, where is Jack? Third off, where are the tears I'm guessing Russell was hoping to get out of me? Fourth off, where's more on the Time War? Fifth off, where's the finale-worthy plot?
1) Seriously. They spent the whole season building this up? Where is the Doctor breaking down. Where is their arrogance getting them into trouble. Where is the big mistake he or she should seriously have made by now. It's like hubris building up into nothing, and that's bad. I've defended Russell against so many accusations characterisation-wise, because I thought it was all for a greater purpose.
2) Okay, so I was sort of resigned to not seeing Jack, but I couldn't help hoping, right? But this goes back to the same issue as before, me expecting them to be building up to something big. Because if I wanted to see Jack all that much - well, yes, okay, it was partly to squee and marvel and love. But also? Because if anybody could put the Doctor back in his place it would be Jack. It clicks so perfectly in my head, the way it could go down. But there was no need for Jack, since there was no need to put the Doctor back in his place.
3) Not a single tear shone in my eyes. I like that they didn't actually kill Rose, that she was just being super emo. And at the same time, I hate that they didn't actually kill Rose. I like that they didn't, because everybody knew they would. But a well-done, played-down death would've been so perfect, and would've surely made the Doctor break down, and yes it all comes back to that, we need a breakdown. Maybe they're just taking their time, and are planning for it later, but... god. This was so disappointing. The goodbye scene was brilliantly acted, and maybe it's because I cried every tear in my body last night over Grey's, I don't know, but this just seriously fell short. Because their arrogance and their on-crack-ness have left me on the outside of all their private jokes, on the outside of their relationship, and I could not care. (I miss Nine. The "Bad Wolf" moment? LOVE. It was like a little bit of Nine shining through Ten's smile.)
4) You give me Daleks, I can't help but hope for more info on the Time War. They've kept us in the dark for so long, and Ten's "and maybe one day I'll come to terms with it," or however he put it, only served to finally put in words what we already knew. That he's haunted by it, and that he's far from got over it, and the thought that a Time Lord, looking to live a whiiiile longer yet, would say "maybe" about getting over something, when he potentially has so much time to do it in? Well, yeah. It means the world. But we knew all that already, the acting was good enough. ...yes, we're back to me wanting the breakdown. Hmpf. Because the breakdown, had it happened, would've had to be related to his repressed feelings over the Time War.
5) Honestly. I can't defend Russell honestly without being aware of his flaws, and plot has never been his strong point. He also likes his epic endings, and the whole "whole family on this deserted beach in Norway, the Tylers reunited" thing? Very RTD. (For the record, though? I hate that Mickey's suddenly back to Rose's... guy friend thing. Liked them so much better a world apart.) My point! My point is that the plot SUCKED MAJOR ASS. I was not holding my breath in the slightest. How sad is that? Last week's cliffhanger had me on the edge of my seat, and this? Not so much. I kept waiting for the story to really start, really kick in, and suddenly it was already Cheap Resolution Time. I truly wish they made longer stories, could develop things more.
I'm just... disappointed. Sorry. And sixth off, I think, is where is Nine?
6) I miss Nine. I love David Tennant, I always said he could pull off a brilliant Doctor, and he does, but he doesn't pull off a Doctor I can LOVE. Not really. I love him superficially. I don't love him like I should, and it fills me with sadness. Nine, I miss Nine so much, no matter how much I try to like Ten.
Can we get Torchwood now?
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Besides, we need a breakdown, damnit.
Now, as for Rose's exit. It's a good point, again, and yeah, PotW was just... PotW was Nine, this is Ten. It's like suddenly Russell decided to make this a show mainly for children, and accessorily for grown-ups, instead of mainly for grown-ups but still enjoyable for children. The morales turned into kids' morales. The plots, the characterisations, all of it is suddenly much more aimed at kids, I feel. And so did Rose's decision. It's the kid in us all that wants to make the decision to stay with the Doctor.
So in a way, the fact that it wasn't a choice that made her leave - well, yeah, I kinda like it. Because who actually wants to grow up? And I think there's more to the end than pure despair and horror, because she's working at Torchwood, because the way he reacted to that was very much the same way he'd reacted to seeing Sarah Jane again, and I don't know, I got the feel she'd get a life. (She just wouldn't hook up with Mickey again. For obvious Jake reasons. Yes I'm clinging to my OTP.)
The fact that the Doctor was the symbol for the destructive power of love, that doesn't bother me. Because he is. Once you've known him, how can you go back? See Sarah Jane, see Rose's future. They get a life, but they're never again the same. And if they grow enough they manage to say no when he comes back. And that's what love's all about, when it stops.
...I really, really miss Nine, though.