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Nate Elune ([personal profile] fan_elune) wrote2006-11-06 09:23 pm

"And just for a second there I felt so alive."

Was I the only one to think OMGBUSHWACKED at the beginning of the episode? That was so Firefly come back to us. ...with Ianto in the role of River? Or something.

Anyway. Fairly good episode, I found. I like seeing that ruthless side of Jack. Safety first, and his people first. This sort of moral ambiguity is how I like my (big damn) heroes best.

SEE HOW I'M STILL NOT DOING NANO. I have willpower. Because each episode just makes me want to a little bit more.

I know I should get annoyed by the kiss of life thing. Because it's a bit of an easy way out, or at least it's in danger of becoming that. But I don't know, I'm still not. Not simply because that was Ianto Jack was kissing either. Although, yay! Even though this episode dismissed the asexual!Ianto theory, yay for the Ianto-centric, and yay for raising some very valid points (how outside the team Ianto is, how Jack for all his friendliness never cared enough to ask about his life, the dirty work they keep asking of him, the impact of the Cybermen war on the surviving members of TW, etc). And I now want to read Jack/Ianto, if anybody has any good recs.

I'm also surprised at myself for enjoying the Gwen/Owen kiss and consecutive dialogue. It felt true. And I still adore her boyfriend, just because he's so very random average guy.

Also, yay for the mention of Suzie (they do remember her), yay for the mutilated doctor and Gwen feeling that Owen was hard neither of which would have flown on Who, and yay for them not firing Ianto or killing him off.

I only wanted to slap Gwen a couple times in the whole episode, which bodes well.

All in all, yeah, I liked this episode. However, I'm starting to wonder if I'm not going to keep waiting for the show to hit a really awesome note until the end of the season. Oh well. At least I'll wait with Jack, who is very good company.

In other news, no miracle. Kaylee's still dead. Although I think it might just be the screen, in which case I should at least be able to retrieve the stuff that's on her.

I'm not going to get depressed over it.

[livejournal.com profile] kowaio? Happy birthday again! Let me know what you guys think of the movie.

[identity profile] vann.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
I totally thought of Bushwacked too, to the point where I don't think it was a coincidence, but almost a tribute or nod to Firefly. It was just too much--the "crew" having random basketball game, and an outside member watching, all foggy-headed and distant? I dunno.


[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 03:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Precisely, yeah. I thought it had to be, and then wondered who penned this episode and was it them making the reference, or an RTD thing? Who knows. Anyway: love! Also, hi! How've you been?
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[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 03:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Disons qu'elle est dans le coma, plus exactement. :(

[identity profile] grimma.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 06:50 am (UTC)(link)
Tout pareil avec Firefly!

Par contre, le reste de l'épisode m'a laissée sur ma fin. Je trouve que les jalons sont posés un peu trop grossièrement... Alors peut-être qu'ils n'ont pas le temps ni les moyens d'avancer plus "finement", mais grrrr, j'attends aussi ZE episode.

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 03:26 pm (UTC)(link)
C'est ça le truc avec Torchwood, en fait. C'est super frustrant parce que tu sens tout le potentiel frémir sous la surface, et tu les vois tomber dans les trucs bateaux. C'est trop con.

Mais bon, pour l'instant je préfère à la S2 de Who, donc bon.

[identity profile] grimma.livejournal.com 2006-11-12 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
C'est super frustrant parce que tu sens tout le potentiel frémir sous la surface, et tu les vois tomber dans les trucs bateaux

Exactement.

J'ai revu l'épisode 4 et je me suis rendue compte que ce qui ne m'avait vraiment pas plus c'était la performance de l'acteur qui joue Ianto. Du coup ça m'a bloquée sur le reste. J'attends; au pire y'a du Captain Jack à zieuter et y'a plus qu'à attendre qu'il s'en tape un ou une. Au pire.

[identity profile] littlegothsin.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 08:25 am (UTC)(link)
Pareil pour le début "bonjouuuur on est des fans de whedon!"

Je trouve ça incroyablement drole que le bisou magique nécessite d'être à pleine bouche, parce que tout le monde sait que les baisers chastes ont un pouvoir thérapeutique ridicule.


[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 03:28 pm (UTC)(link)
lol, moi personellement je me suis retrouvée à me dire que c'était très approprié au personnage de Jack, ce genre de baisers pour qu'il communique ce genre d'essence de vie ou peu importe le nom qu'on lui donne. Et puis j'ai poussé la réflexion un peu plus loin en me disant que la seule façon que ce soit encore plus approprié ce serait qu'il faille qu'il couche avec pour la transmettre, auquel cas on se retrouverait avec des cas de semi nécrophilie et c'est là que j'ai décidé d'arrêter de penser. Oups? :p

[identity profile] littlegothsin.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 04:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh, c'est justement parce que ça colle si bien au personnage que ça me fait rire (pas que je m'en plaigne, d'ailleur)
Ben sans aller jusqu'à la semi necrophilie (il ressucite pas les morts quand même si ?) ça serait au moins du semi viol ("oui, Ianto, j'ai abusé de toi pendant que tu étais insconcient, mais c'était pour te reveiller! Non non, attend que je trouve une meilleur formulation").

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 05:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Oui, pas vraiment de la nécrophilie, d'où le "semi". Parce que s'ils sont inconscients, ils pourraient aussi bien être morts. A moins qu'il n'y ait un terme genre somnambulophilie? Heh. Bref!
"Oui, Ianto, j'ai abusé de toi pendant que tu étais inconscient, mais c'était pour te réveiller... et tu as aimé ça." *insert Ianto spluttering* "La preuve? Vérifie ton pantalon." *taps twice on his cheek, and moves away to put his clothes back on* "Right. The world to save."

[identity profile] firko.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 09:05 am (UTC)(link)
I also spotted the Firefly links/homage in this episode, and put forward my theory that Ianto is really Simon, and Jack is really Mal in my journal!
I feel like Torchwood hasn't really hit it's stride yet, but having Jack around certainly helps - he's so pretty!

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 03:34 pm (UTC)(link)
And that would make Lisa River, except... oh, god. This is making me feel even worse about the truth behind Ianto's "I'll watch you suffer and die" line, because can you imagine the state of Simon if Mal hadn't helped River. God. I can't wait!

And yeah, exactly. TW isn't quite there yet, but there's Jack. Heh.

[identity profile] miss-kao.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 09:22 am (UTC)(link)
Elle a beau être un mac, j'envoie plein de bonnes ondes à Kaylee, because it sucks.

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 03:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Merci. Je crois qu'il faudrait plus que des bonnes ondes, et un miracle à la place, mais merci.

[identity profile] miss-kao.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 03:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Elle a quel âge aussi ? Parce que moi, Charlie a maintenant plus de 3 ans, et sa garantie est finie, donc je ne donne pas cher de sa peau, je suis déjà en train de chercher son remplaçant pour parer le coup. Ca évitera les galères, si je peux faire le changement en douceur.

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 03:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Je comptais effectivement en changer bientôt. Jusqu'à récemment j'avais de l'espoir de lui faire atteindre les 4 ans, puis finalement j'ai dû me rendre à l'évidence que j'avais intérêt à en changer à Noël, et maintenant ce n'est plus une évidence tant qu'une nécessité. Trois ans et demi, donc, pour répondre à ta question.

[identity profile] miss-kao.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 04:01 pm (UTC)(link)
C'est incroyable, quand même, quand on achète un ordi, on pense qu'on a en pour longtemps, et finalement, ça passe très vite. Ca fait un peu mal de mettre aussi cher pour si peu de temps.

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 04:05 pm (UTC)(link)
J'en parlais avec une amie hier, on se rappelait du temps où les ordis faisaient trois fois rien, mais ne buggaient jamais ! Tu te rappelles du vieux truc qu'il y a dans ma chambre ? Il doit bien avoir quinze ans, et à part du traitement de texte basique et quelques jeux tout cons tu ne fais rien dessus, mais il marche encore nickel et il ne bugge jamais. Quinze ans. C'est incroyable.

Bon cela dit l'iBook de mon père est plus vieux que le mien et tient encore très bien (évidemment, lui ne l'a jamais fait tomber par terre). Il doit au moins avoir cinq ans. Il rame un peu, mais c'est simplement parce que maintenant on a l'habitude de tellement mieux. T'achètes à peine un truc qu'il est déjà obsolète, de nos jours. ;)

[identity profile] miss-kao.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 04:09 pm (UTC)(link)
C'est vrai ça, les vieux ordis ils tenaient vraiment mieux le choc.

C'est pour ça que je prends mon temps pour choisir le nouveau, plus j'attends , plus l'ordi sera meilleur ! Mais bon, avec cette logique, t'achètes jamais rien !

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 04:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Oui, c'est clair. Enfin de toute façon moi j'ai plus le choix, donc faut bien que je me lance maintenant !

[identity profile] heikki-cheren.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 11:39 am (UTC)(link)
Since when is she dead?

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 03:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Sunday. On the train. In the middle of Robin Hood - how dare she. And she's not really dead, actually, I don't think so anyway. More like in a coma. Screen issues.

[identity profile] heikki-cheren.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
It's a pity you have to replace the whole thing just because of the screen (do you? I suppose the "garantie" might not work anymore for her, or is she not as old as I thought?). That's the big problem with laptop, no way to easily replace the screen or keyboard... :-(
Good luck for the data retrieval.

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 04:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The thing is, the way to fix her might be super simple, they might just need to put a dot of glue some place or something. But yeah, she's definitely as old as you think, and with no guarantee coverage, I don't wanna send her away for them to do stuff to her and then what if I need to pay so much for the repairs. Especially as I was planning on getting a new one anyway because she'd been having more and more trouble. Ugh.
Thanks.

[identity profile] heikki-cheren.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 04:10 pm (UTC)(link)
A dot of glue? Hum... Yanno, she really didn't need to express her support toward my poor camera's screen this way, really. Bad girl.
Can't they tell in advance how much the repairs would cost?
Well, if you were to get soon a new one anyway, it's not as bad as it could have been, but still.... I have troubles picturing you without a laptop on your lap... ^_^

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 04:20 pm (UTC)(link)
The only time she had trouble - which was actually fixed by a dot of glue, seriously - they couldn't, no. 'Cause they send her away, that's how it works for Macs. Which yeah, I know, sucks. Hush.

Heh. Worse yet - picture me surviving on a PC laptop in the meantime.

[identity profile] heikki-cheren.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Ah, ok. It doesn't help. :-(

Hmm... No, that's not worse. It's still a laptop. I personnally don't care whether people have a Mac or something else. The important visual element is the laptop. I you have a laptop on any kind on your lap, the thought it less terrifying... ;-p You can still write NaNo fics on it.

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 04:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I AM NOT WRITING NANO.

Not that it's a sore spot with myself or anything. :p

That said, I'm not sure I could, actually. Write anything on Simon. The very thought makes me cringe. I don't know. My muses are Mac-friendly, clearly.

[identity profile] heikki-cheren.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 05:00 pm (UTC)(link)
But... but... Who talked about NaNo???? I didn't, I just mentionned it fics! I swear!

Well, you just have to *imagine* you're using a Mac. Use the power of your mind to trick your muses!!!

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 05:54 pm (UTC)(link)
And then I'll try and use shortcuts and stuff that don't work on a PC and the illusion will be broken. No, it just doesn't work. I should be happy enough my RP¨muses don't care if it's a PC or a Mac.

It's not like my fic muses have been around much anyway. Apart from Jack, obviously, who's still pushing for a Nano. Shut up shut up shut up. ;) You doing it this year? Or did you outright give up on the idea after last year?

[identity profile] heikki-cheren.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 08:34 pm (UTC)(link)
That's just because your imagination isn't strong enough, that's it. Otherwise you could use the laptop switched off and eyes closed and PRETENDS everything is working fine and... ok, you would have to write down everything again on a notepad, and it's not that easy when your eyes are closed, but...


Well, last year I give up right from the start because of the long annoying boring pissing off speech from the guy I was dating. This year nobody bored the hell out of me, so I can totally do the Nano. Except I keep having ideas for short stories, not novels... Or actually, for short stories in a BD style mostly, because it's all so graphical.... So I still don't know. I'm bound to always have a week less each year anyway, because of the Utopiales.

[identity profile] the-swordman.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 12:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope you'll be able to retrieve your hard drive datas, all the best with Kay, mate.

Torchwood wise, I was totally oblivious to the Firefly nod *bad brain no cookies*.
I loved the angst in this episode but I have to agree with Grimma on this one, it came a bit out of left field, I mean it would have been better if we had seen an hint or two in the previous episodes. Some sort of build up.
It wasn't bad by any standards but it didn't exactly convinced me either. We'll see where they go from here, I really hope they don't reset the characters as in "everybody is happy and best pals again".
All in all, I'm still waiting for the show to hit its stride.

Oh yeah and I really hope they won't forget to address Owen "kinda date rape" and "kinda sadistic" tendencies by hooking him with Gwen ! I did enjoy the scene and the dialog but I do want to see the above issues addressed.

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 03:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks, mate. I think I should be able to, as soon as I get the right cable to hook her up to Harken's screen.

Heh! Bad Browncoat, Fred, bad Browncoat. My mind jumped straight there.
Well no, see, some stuff was actually foreshadowed. Not the Cyberwoman part, but the Ianto's not part of the team and constantly cleaning up after them bit. And it's that bit that I found most interesting, personally. Although I have to say I wasn't always impressed by the actor's performance, sadly. He shouldn't have gone so all out so early in the episode.
Knowing RTD, I very much doubt every is gonna be happy and best pals again. You know how good he is at writing strained 'relationships'. Besides, we had that line of Ianto's about watching Jack suffer and die, and that had better be a foreshadowing. So.

See, I thought that they'd already somehow addressed that last episode, with how much Owen was shaken by feeling the raped girl's terror. He was seriously unhinged. And I'm sadly not sure they're going to do much more about it than that. As for the Gwen snog, I'm really not sure it's actually going to lead anywhere, because you also have Jack to take into account. Not that I'm not praying to all the gods I know (...mostly Joss and Tim) that they won't go down the Jack/Gwen road, but. GOD hopefully they won't.

[identity profile] kowaio.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
hello !
Thank you again !!
I'll watch it this week end I think :)

And sorry for Kay'.. It's not cool.

[identity profile] fan-elune.livejournal.com 2006-11-07 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
So not cool, yeah. Thanks. And you're welcome! :)