You make a good point there, about that being the Doctor, not hubris. As someone who's only seen a few old school stories, it's not something I really get. And, mostly, as a follower of Whedon, I see hubris, I want it to come back and bite him in the arse. Because I'm a Whedonite before being anything else, and Nine was not hubristic, Ten is, and I can't let that go.
Besides, we need a breakdown, damnit.
Now, as for Rose's exit. It's a good point, again, and yeah, PotW was just... PotW was Nine, this is Ten. It's like suddenly Russell decided to make this a show mainly for children, and accessorily for grown-ups, instead of mainly for grown-ups but still enjoyable for children. The morales turned into kids' morales. The plots, the characterisations, all of it is suddenly much more aimed at kids, I feel. And so did Rose's decision. It's the kid in us all that wants to make the decision to stay with the Doctor.
So in a way, the fact that it wasn't a choice that made her leave - well, yeah, I kinda like it. Because who actually wants to grow up? And I think there's more to the end than pure despair and horror, because she's working at Torchwood, because the way he reacted to that was very much the same way he'd reacted to seeing Sarah Jane again, and I don't know, I got the feel she'd get a life. (She just wouldn't hook up with Mickey again. For obvious Jake reasons. Yes I'm clinging to my OTP.)
The fact that the Doctor was the symbol for the destructive power of love, that doesn't bother me. Because he is. Once you've known him, how can you go back? See Sarah Jane, see Rose's future. They get a life, but they're never again the same. And if they grow enough they manage to say no when he comes back. And that's what love's all about, when it stops.
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Date: 2006-07-10 12:50 pm (UTC)Besides, we need a breakdown, damnit.
Now, as for Rose's exit. It's a good point, again, and yeah, PotW was just... PotW was Nine, this is Ten. It's like suddenly Russell decided to make this a show mainly for children, and accessorily for grown-ups, instead of mainly for grown-ups but still enjoyable for children. The morales turned into kids' morales. The plots, the characterisations, all of it is suddenly much more aimed at kids, I feel. And so did Rose's decision. It's the kid in us all that wants to make the decision to stay with the Doctor.
So in a way, the fact that it wasn't a choice that made her leave - well, yeah, I kinda like it. Because who actually wants to grow up? And I think there's more to the end than pure despair and horror, because she's working at Torchwood, because the way he reacted to that was very much the same way he'd reacted to seeing Sarah Jane again, and I don't know, I got the feel she'd get a life. (She just wouldn't hook up with Mickey again. For obvious Jake reasons. Yes I'm clinging to my OTP.)
The fact that the Doctor was the symbol for the destructive power of love, that doesn't bother me. Because he is. Once you've known him, how can you go back? See Sarah Jane, see Rose's future. They get a life, but they're never again the same. And if they grow enough they manage to say no when he comes back. And that's what love's all about, when it stops.
...I really, really miss Nine, though.