"Man, I told you he was good."

[fan_elune]

This whole post is majorly SPOILERIFIC in a Doctor Who finale, Doomsday kind of way.

Typed as I watched.

...yes, they're Daleks. So what?

Not the best acting, Jackie.

Cybermen will remove sexuality! No way Jose!

Oh, don't go and die, purple shirt and tie guy. You're into purple! Thus, I like you. ...yeeouch.

Oh, Rose clinging to Mickey! Heh.

Music's good. Probably a bit over the top, but good.

I like Mickey, he's a nice middle ground between old!Mickey and Ricky.

Oh, Doctor. To know what's going through his mind as he sees the Daleks.

Ha! Of course the Daleks would not unite with you, Cyberfilth.

"You are better at dying"? Ha! The Daleks have snark.

Aha! Of course they're scared! The oncoming storm!

So, y'all think they'll get upgraded? TW-gal and Jackie?

Hope! That's Jacky-boy, intit? YAY! Now go find Mickey! Jake/Mickey OTP! Ahem.

Yay for Jackie running, too. Anybody would be running.

Oh Jake's accent! (You'd missed me squeeing at his accent, hadn't you. Admit it.)

Oh, Pete... Pete! What's up. You can't - he's needed!

Harriet! Heee! Love that mention of her.

Ha! I love him. "Off we go, then!" So him.

ROSE DON'T. ...so she remembers? She knows that Jack's alive. Why the fuck did they not go back for him. Serious-the-fuck-ly. No excuse. ...and she's on crack again!

SONIC SCREWDRIVER WOOHOO! Opening doors and putting up shelves.

Go Mickey! Come on, Mickey, come on! ...oh, brilliant, he stumbled.

Ha! Doctor/Mickey smooch!

...and the way Mickey's looking at the Doctor. Aw. He's like, "yes, that's the one."

Yay Pete and Jackie!

Love that he repeatedly stumbled and fell. Heroes never fall. But the Doctor does. Yay!

Thank you Jake. Because yes, lift, good idea. At least one of them has something resembling brains.

A prison, fuck, and also, good one. The fact that it's a prison, I mean.

"Man, I told you he was good." = OTP moment. (And can totally be read as slashy, too. Just sayin'.)

...how exactly did TW-gal manage to regain her individuality inside the Cybersuit? What? How did that happen? Did I miss something?

"Emergency temporal shift"? Did one escape? Is it the Black one?

If she's going into the void, they're so going to get her back at some point. It's Sirius behind the veil all over again. Oh? Oh. Pete. *cuddles* *hard* How did he pull that off? Seriously, that's so deus ex machina. Russell Russell Russell.

Oh, Ten. ...and now you need to move on. No, seriously. Maybe Jack can arrive? One can always hope.

I'm bored.

...is she in therapy? Who is she talking to?

WHERE IS JACKY-BOY. Did they break up on account of Rose?

"Burning up a sun just to say goodbye." That's lovely.

Bad Wolf Bay. Ha! And "Dalek?" was exactly my thought.

THE BABY? ...oh. Good. I was worried for a moment that she was back with Mickey. She can't be, since he's with Jake. Just sayin'.

It's good acting, Billie, but... I just can't care.

GOOD. I was hoping it'd power down before he could say it. OH DOCTOR. The Doctor crying is just wrong. In such a beautiful way.

And the music is really, seriously too much.

Ha! I like the WTF ending. EXCEPT FOR THE PART WHERE IT'S SERIOUSLY MISSING IN THE JACK DEPARTMENT.


And now for actual thoughts.

That was highly disappointing. First off, where is the breakdown? Second off, where is Jack? Third off, where are the tears I'm guessing Russell was hoping to get out of me? Fourth off, where's more on the Time War? Fifth off, where's the finale-worthy plot?

1) Seriously. They spent the whole season building this up? Where is the Doctor breaking down. Where is their arrogance getting them into trouble. Where is the big mistake he or she should seriously have made by now. It's like hubris building up into nothing, and that's bad. I've defended Russell against so many accusations characterisation-wise, because I thought it was all for a greater purpose.

2) Okay, so I was sort of resigned to not seeing Jack, but I couldn't help hoping, right? But this goes back to the same issue as before, me expecting them to be building up to something big. Because if I wanted to see Jack all that much - well, yes, okay, it was partly to squee and marvel and love. But also? Because if anybody could put the Doctor back in his place it would be Jack. It clicks so perfectly in my head, the way it could go down. But there was no need for Jack, since there was no need to put the Doctor back in his place.

3) Not a single tear shone in my eyes. I like that they didn't actually kill Rose, that she was just being super emo. And at the same time, I hate that they didn't actually kill Rose. I like that they didn't, because everybody knew they would. But a well-done, played-down death would've been so perfect, and would've surely made the Doctor break down, and yes it all comes back to that, we need a breakdown. Maybe they're just taking their time, and are planning for it later, but... god. This was so disappointing. The goodbye scene was brilliantly acted, and maybe it's because I cried every tear in my body last night over Grey's, I don't know, but this just seriously fell short. Because their arrogance and their on-crack-ness have left me on the outside of all their private jokes, on the outside of their relationship, and I could not care. (I miss Nine. The "Bad Wolf" moment? LOVE. It was like a little bit of Nine shining through Ten's smile.)

4) You give me Daleks, I can't help but hope for more info on the Time War. They've kept us in the dark for so long, and Ten's "and maybe one day I'll come to terms with it," or however he put it, only served to finally put in words what we already knew. That he's haunted by it, and that he's far from got over it, and the thought that a Time Lord, looking to live a whiiiile longer yet, would say "maybe" about getting over something, when he potentially has so much time to do it in? Well, yeah. It means the world. But we knew all that already, the acting was good enough. ...yes, we're back to me wanting the breakdown. Hmpf. Because the breakdown, had it happened, would've had to be related to his repressed feelings over the Time War.

5) Honestly. I can't defend Russell honestly without being aware of his flaws, and plot has never been his strong point. He also likes his epic endings, and the whole "whole family on this deserted beach in Norway, the Tylers reunited" thing? Very RTD. (For the record, though? I hate that Mickey's suddenly back to Rose's... guy friend thing. Liked them so much better a world apart.) My point! My point is that the plot SUCKED MAJOR ASS. I was not holding my breath in the slightest. How sad is that? Last week's cliffhanger had me on the edge of my seat, and this? Not so much. I kept waiting for the story to really start, really kick in, and suddenly it was already Cheap Resolution Time. I truly wish they made longer stories, could develop things more. Or had Steven Moffat write all their two-parters. Honestly, last year's ending two-parter was so much better, even though it used even worse of a deus ex machina than Pete was. At least the deus ex machina was so huge it almost mocked itself, with Rose as an actual goddess figure, momentarily.

I'm just... disappointed. Sorry. And sixth off, I think, is where is Nine?

6) I miss Nine. I love David Tennant, I always said he could pull off a brilliant Doctor, and he does, but he doesn't pull off a Doctor I can LOVE. Not really. I love him superficially. I don't love him like I should, and it fills me with sadness. Nine, I miss Nine so much, no matter how much I try to like Ten.

Can we get Torchwood now?

Comments

[cerulean-blu.livejournal.com]

Well I'll just keep on crying, blubbering fool that I am, but don't mind me, no no. Can I cling a little?

Can't say I agree with most of it, but then I'm easy, and cheesy, and other things in -y, so to each his own I guess *g*. The shipper's having some serious emo-ing here shhhhhh.

Ah, but I do agree on the Captain Jack goodness, or lack thereof. Meh.

[randomling]

This is the first episode where I actually, genuinely, came away not knowing what to think. I mean, I'd long ago given up on there being a breakdown really, or any follow-up to the hubris - maybe because it seems like what I sometimes think is "hubris" is actually just the Doctor and his chronic ego problem rubbing off on Rose. I mean, this is a man who will break his best friend's heart to save her life (not Rose, Ace), who'll spend a half a lifetime conniving how to destroy a planet, who will bring down kings and queens without a thought and be back to the TARDIS in time for tea. And that's not hubris - it's never been sold as such, not really - it's just the Doctor.

But I hadn't given up on a good exit for Rose, and I think she got a horrible one. Not because it wasn't a good episode, but because it completely trashed her character development. She learned nothing and only came away from the Doctor worse off, which is exactly how it shouldn't be. It should have been a choice - a hard one, but a choice - between the Doctor and her family, and her family should have won. Not screaming to stay with the Doctor until the last second she was ripped away, and then seeming very much like she might never get over him. Or he should have left her, or forced her to leave; but it should have been one of them, and it should have left her hurting, maybe, but wiser, and able to move on at some point. All I got from the end of this was pure despair and horror, with no hope at all. Which is, frankly, horrible.

And it leaves me with the opposite impression from The Parting Of The Ways. That episode was all about the healing power of love and how the Doctor is a positive force on almost everything around him, he's a reason to put up with the death. But this episode was about the destructive power of love. And the Doctor, as the ultimate in love, being the ultimate destructive force - because without him, there's no point and you're empty.

God, how depressing a message is that?

[littlegothsin.livejournal.com]

I did cry a bit, but mostly because I was sad to see her go, and that next season, they will be nobody from the first 2005 season left. I do agree on one point: the relationship between Nine (miss him a lot too) and Rose was more touching than the one between Ten and Rose. Maybe because we saw it happen, whereas with Ten it had happened already. I still want to hug Ten though. Am afraid of next season: will they manage to built new relationship between the Doctor and a new Companion without cheap-ing his relation with Rose ? Anyway. Torchwood, october ?